When needs are covered, one can safely focus on wants. That maxim holds especially true when it comes to gun collections.
The average gun owner’s needs are usually met by a pair of reliable handguns, a good rifle, a shotgun, and a rimfire plinker of sorts. That said, our economy is not need-based, and covering the wants is what those fun afternoons at the gun show are all about.
I have long had an inexplicable affection for autoloaders in .380ACP. The Cartridge of a Thousand Names, also known as the 9mm Kurz, 9×17mm, 9mm short, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, and 9mm Kratak, is a moderately powerful cartridge that is considered the lower limit of effective self-defense rounds. It has always been more popular in Europe, where it has been the service caliber of just about every national police force from the 1950 through the 1980s.
There’s no practical reason for this affection other than the fact that there are a lot of neat guns chambered for this round. These days, there are many guns chambered for more powerful rounds that are smaller and lighter than the old-school .380s, and the caliber itself is now primarily utilized in tiny pocket guns, but there’s still not a thing wrong with a steel-framed Walther PPK, Colt 1908, or Astra Constable, and I’ve never felt underarmed when I’ve relied on an older .380 for protection. Properly placed, a .380 bullet will switch an attacker’s lights off just as well as anything else out there, and the weight and easy handling of a larger gun make the caliber a lot more pleasant and easy to shoot than the newfangled eight-ounce pocket pistols that have the ergonomics of a credit card with a trigger.
The .380 is considered underpowered by some, but in my experience, it’s a very accurate and mild-shooting round, and the guns that chamber it almost universally operate by the blowback principle, which makes them simple and very reliable.
Here’s one that I keep buying in various iterations, the SIG P232. It’s flat, reasonably lightweight (16 ounces for the alloy-framed version, 20 for the steel-framed one), very reliable, ergonomic, accurate, and drop-dead gorgeous. In my opinion, it’s one of the most sleek handgun designs ever brought to market.
The Walther PPK of James Bond fame was the one that started the double-action pocket pistol craze, and it has spawned more copycat designs than most other handguns. While I prefer the original .32ACP chambering for the little PPK, this particular S&W-made .380 never gave me any trouble, and it was amazingly full-featured for such a small weapon. The design is a classic, the handgun equivalent of a Mini Cooper. Plus, James Bond carried one, so that’s a bonus.
This Browning BDA is a stand-in for my second-place favorite .380, which is the Beretta 84/85. I’ve owned some of each, but I never got around to taking pictures of the Beretta before I unwisely traded it off. The Browning is basically the same gun (Beretta made them for FN), only with a closed slide in place of the Beretta’s classic open-topped one, and a slide-mounted safety instead of the Beretta’s frame-mounted lever. The Beretta 84/85 series looks much like a Beretta 92FS someone left in the dryer too long.
Those older .380 designs have kind of fallen by the wayside in the new world of sleek tactical gear, and on paper, they can’t compete with the new breed of subcompact polymer pistols. They do, however, feel like little works of art, relics from a different and now extinct school of engineering, and I am not ashamed of my preference for them, regardless of what the catchy post slug may say.




14 Comments
April 6, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Phhttthht!
Real pocket autos are chambered for 7.65 Browning.
April 6, 2008 at 7:05 pm
(PS: Obviously someone using .380 instead of .32 is trying to make up for something.)
(PPS: OTOH, I’m fondling a Colt 1908 Vest Pocket and a Dusek Duo as I type this. The Duo was in my back pocket while I sat reading on the porch. 6.35mm Browning is where it’s at. Shooters of the .32 are wimpy!
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April 6, 2008 at 8:22 pm
What I dislike about the .380, and most smaller calibers, is that most are pure blowback design. This entails more felt recoil than is necessary. Makes them a pain to shoot, if they are sized appropriately for the cartridge. The Colt Pocketlite .380’s are a joy to shoot, due to the “locked” breech design. Small, and weigh in the area of 12-15 oz.
April 6, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Yes, but Marko *likes* blowback operation. Apparently.
Because he’s weird.
April 6, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Why “Guilty Gun Pleasures” and not “Gun Pleasures” ? If all your needs are covered, and you are spending disposable income, then purchase anything you might want with no guilt involved.
That said, I would like to find an inexpensive, small, lightweight, reliable vest pocket pistol in a suitable caliber, possibly 22 LR. However, it seems that the inexpensive requirement nullifies small lightweight and reliable.
April 7, 2008 at 4:57 am
The Walther PPK/S, carried one for a lot of years, she was beautiful, accurate, and handy. I kick myself for ever having let her go. To top it off the guy I sold her to lets me know, every time I see him, what fun she is.
April 7, 2008 at 5:51 am
I like the Star .380, myself. Like a scaled down 1911. I always thought the Remington model 51 was the untimate .380. Wish I had bought one back when…
April 7, 2008 at 7:44 am
That Browning BDA sings to me. I had never given the .380 much conderation before now, except for that new Ruger pocket pistol. I need to get to a fun store and see these .380’s up close and personal.
April 7, 2008 at 8:25 am
My only problem with the .380 as a defensive weapon is it’s lack of stopping power. I know, I know….it’s sounds cliché, but it’s true. I would classify it as a “get off me” gun. It’s small size makes it easy to conceal, but unless you have an escape route, it may just be a noise maker. I have personally witnessed an individual continue to be mobile after placing two rounds of 9mm in him, one of which hit his upper thigh.
The .380 is a good round and any round, when place properly, can kill. It is a great caliber to learn and teach on. Home and personal defense, I believe, should be left to the larger.
April 7, 2008 at 8:45 am
I used to own a Beretta Model 70S in .380. Beautifully made, completely useless pistol. In single-action with no grip safety it was not something I felt comfortable carrying cocked-and-locked. It served it’s purpose once, though, and the size of the hole in the muzzle probably deterred the belligerent drunk who was assaulting my wife on our apartment steps. I’m just really, really glad I didn’t have to find out whether or not 7 rounds of 95-grain Silvertips would have done anything other than having an irritating effect on a 300-lb. inebriate.
It became impossible to find Beretta magazines after they stopped making them (they go for around $50 at gun shows now), and the aftermarket versions are horribly made (I’ve had them puke the springs and contents out of the failed bottoms at the range).
Funny that I still miss the dang thing, though.
April 7, 2008 at 11:49 am
I would love to own a Colt 1908 or early FN. However, I would have to win the lottery to be able to shoot it.
And reloading the little buggers is really hard.
April 9, 2008 at 1:45 am
The only .380 that I’ve ever owned personally is the KelTec P3AT that I am wearing concealed right now. It’s a souless little pistol, to be sure. Handy, though, and I must say that I feel better about a teeny .380 than a teeny .32 or .25, for its intended purposes, which are: 1. Get Off Me gun. 2. Backup for my primary pistol, especially if I find that I’ve lost possession of it. (Dire, I know. But it happens with unfortunate regularity to cops, who carry openly and are targets for that sort of thing.)
The .380 really is the lower end of what I would consider stopping power. The choice of ammo that one uses in a given gun is incredibly important. .380s can be a tad picky, and some ammo is much more efficient at stopping than others. Mine hates Winchester rims, so I tend to load it with one Hornady Custom XTP HP in the snout and a magazine full of quality ball.
For real pleasure, the 1908 in .380 is a wonderful shooter. Teeny fine sights for long-range stuff, nice, pointable slide for close-in shooting.
December 14, 2008 at 3:24 am
I have carried a Walther ppk 380 for decades and thousands of rounds of federal hollow points.It has never failed.I will continue to so even though I know it is old school.
August 23, 2009 at 4:48 am
“Stopping power” is all luck of the draw. I’ve seen a person hit with a .40 S&W stay on his feet and keep shooting and eventually run into the woods. I’ve seen a soldier take a 9mm round through his left arm pit (the round travelled across his chest cavity) and walk himself to the medical clinic. Just last week I saw a 16 y/o who took a .380 round in the chest and hit the ground DRT. You never know…unless you put one between their eyes its a gamble(still a gamble with pit bulls…fyi). I’d rather have something than nothing though.